Fireman(FN Navy Rating)

Undesignated fireman apprentice working in engineering divisions while awaiting rating assignment.

PACT (Professional Apprenticeship Career Track) — Engineering. Fireman Apprentice (FN) is an undesignated Sailor working in engineering divisions aboard ships while awaiting permanent rating assignment.

Overall

3.5/10

Burnout4.7

Lifestyle3.0

Civilian ROI1.0

Happiness5.0

Manning %3.2

What is PACT?

The Professional Apprenticeship Career Track (PACT) is a program where Sailors enlist into the Navy without a guaranteed rating. After boot camp, they report to an engineering division as an undesignated apprentice, typically standing watch in the engine room or auxiliary spaces. At roughly the 18-to-24-month mark they can apply for a permanent rating through (a) the "A-School" path or (b) on-the-job strike path. See the striking for a rate article. PACT is riskier than a rated contract — conversion is not guaranteed.

Ratings FN can convert into

Engineering ratings available to FN Sailors:

Quick Stats

Enlistment BonusNo active bonus

Civilian Sector Transferability$28k–$42k

Advancement OutlookAverage

Manning %99%

Initial Contract3 yr active

Medical Requirements

✓Normal color perception
✓Normal hearing

Security Clearance

No Clearance — Open to Permanent Residents

This rate does not require a security clearance and is open to lawful permanent residents (green card holders) as well as U.S. citizens.

ASVAB Requirements

AFQT Minimum

No rate-specific line-score combo applies to FN. Apprentice rates only need the Navy's minimum AFQT. Rate-specific ASVAB line scores come into play when you PACT-convert into a designated rating — those line-score requirements are set by the target rate, not the apprenticeship.

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Who This Is Best For

Best for undecided individuals who want to explore engineering ratings before committing. Broad exposure to electrical, mechanical, damage control, and propulsion helps you make an informed choice. Advancement is slower until you strike, but the hands-on experience across multiple shops is valuable for finding your fit.

+Pros

✓Strong civilian career transition

–Cons

✗Significant sea duty

Real Opinions

+Positive

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“I would recommend FN to anyone considering it. The training is solid and the community takes care of its own.”

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✓

“I picked E-PACT and it's been nothing but good for me. The Navy has given me the opportunity to learn about this equipment. At the end of the day, it's hard work. But once you get it done, it pays off.”

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–Negative & Mixed

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“Being undesignated means you do whatever needs doing. You have little control over your day-to-day until you strike a rate.”

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“Engineering sucks whether you're PACT or not. When I was undesignated I worked in R-division and knew that I didn't want to be a turd chaser. Being the lowest in engineering means the worst watches, the worst hours, and the dirtiest jobs nobody else wants to do.”

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Recruiter vs Reality

What the recruiter says vs. what it's actually like.

🫡 Recruiter says

“Going undesignated lets you try different jobs before committing to one!”

💀 Reality

Source: MyNavyRates research

Being undesignated means you will likely do the jobs nobody else wants until you strike a rate. You have less control over your career path and may wait months to get into A-school.

🫡 Recruiter says

“FN can strike for any engineering rate.”

💀 Reality

Source: veteran feedback

You can request to strike, but availability depends on the ship's manning needs and your ASVAB scores. If the ship needs GS but you want ET, you may not get your first choice. Openings are not guaranteed.

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“I went 72 hours without sleep doing repairs in the engine room during a casualty. Nobody cared that I was hallucinating. The chief said sleep when you're dead. Undes firemen get the worst watch rotations because they're the most expendable bodies in engineering.”

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Guides on picking a rate, ASVAB, bonuses, promotion, and life after the Navy.

Getting Started

How do you choose the right Navy rate for you?

Choosing a Navy rate means weighing your ASVAB scores, lifestyle preferences, civilian career goals, and willingness to deploy or go to sea. Start by identifying which ratings you qualify for, then narrow the list by what matters most to you.

Getting Started

What is the ASVAB and what scores do you need?

The ASVAB is a multi-aptitude test that determines which Navy ratings you qualify for. Your sub-test scores combine into line scores, and each rating has minimum line-score requirements. Higher scores open more options.

Career & Pay

Which Navy rates have the biggest enlistment bonuses in 2026?

Active Component (Active Duty) only. Per the CNRC GENADMIN dated 10 April 2026, the Nuclear Field carries the biggest source-rate bonus at $40,000 (FY26 ship dates) and a $75,000 EB cap. Top Special Operations and submarine ratings sit at $30,000 EBSR with a $60,000 EB cap. All other rates cap at $50,000. The Loan Repayment Program adds up to $65,000 on top, separately. Reserve component (SELRES) bonuses are governed by a different message and are not covered here.

Career & Pay

How does promotion work in the Navy?

Advancement Outlook

E-2 to E-4 Advancement Outlook

Time to E-4: 30 months total

E-1 → E-2: 9 months at E-1. Automatic
E-2 → E-3: 9 months at E-2. Automatic
E-3 → E-4: 12 months at E-3. Automatic

E-4 is automatic — competitive advancement starts at E-5

How to advance faster to E-4

Your recruiter can process you in at E-2 or E-3 on day one if you qualify. Every rung skipped shortens the path to E-4 by months. Official transcripts / certificates required at enlistment.

E-2 →Easy
2 years of JROTC completed. Easiest common path if your high school offers JROTC.
E-2 →Moderate
24+ semester hours/ 36+ quarter hours of college credit (below the associate's threshold). Roughly one full year of college.
E-2 →Moderate
Civil Air Patrol Billy Mitchell Award. Achievable with consistent cadet participation, but requires testing and leadership time.
E-2 →Moderate
Sea Cadet Corps — reaching the Sea Cadet E-2 rate (join by age 17).
E-2 to E-3 →Moderate
Boot camp leadership roles — roles don't auto-pin rank. Advancement comes from earning Honor Recruit or Hall of Fame at graduation (one award only, not stacked).
- Honor Recruit up to E-2 — effectively the #1 ranked recruit in your division (~60-80 recruits), one Sailor per division per cycle. Selection is based on cumulative performance across all three academic exams, Physical Readiness Test (PRT) scores, uniform and personnel inspections, military bearing, and peer/Recruit Division Commander (RDC) evaluations. Roles that typically compete at this level:
  - Assistant LPO (ALPO) — deputy to the LPO.
  - Master-at-Arms (MAA) — barracks cleanliness, standards, and discipline.
  - Yeoman (YN) — division admin, paperwork, and tracking.
  - Educational Petty Officer (EPO) — study groups, test prep, and academic remediation.
  - Religious Petty Officer (RPO) — coordinates chapel and religious services.
  - Athletic Petty Officer (APO) — leads PT and fitness assessments.
  - Mail Petty Officer — handles mail distribution and tracking.
  - Section Leaders — squad-level leaders below the division-wide roles.
- Hall of Fame up to E-3 — the most elite recognition at Recruit Training Command (RTC), awarded Navy-wide rather than per division. Requires exceptional performance in every training metric: top-tier scores on all three academic exams (typically 90%+), "Outstanding" on the final Physical Readiness Test (PRT), near-perfect uniform and personnel inspections, held a division leadership role with strong performance, and zero remediation, infractions, or negative marks across the full training cycle. Senior leadership roles positioned to compete:
E-3 →Moderate
3 years of JROTC completed (any service branch). Straightforward if your high school has the program — three school years of enrollment.
E-3 →Hard
Eagle Scout (BSA) or Gold Award (GSUSA) — the highest youth scouting awards. Typically takes years of participation and a capstone service project.
E-3 →Hard
Associate's degree (or 48+ semester hours / 72+ quarter hours of college credit, 100-level or higher from an accredited institution). Two years of full-time college.
E-3 →Hard
Civil Air Patrol Earhart Award. Uncommon — only a small fraction of CAP cadets reach this level.
E-3 →Hard
Sea Cadet Corps — reaching the Sea Cadet E-3 rate (join by age 16).

Ceiling is E-3 at accession — stacking qualifications doesn't push you to E-4 out of the gate.

Ways to accelerate E-4 after you're in

Hard
PACT (undesignated enlistment) — a contract-level designation locked in at MEPS with the Navy Classifier. You enlist as Fireman (FN) under the Professional Apprenticeship Career Tracks program, ship to the fleet without a rate, and strike for one later through your command. Essentially the Navy's "pick a rate later" placeholder. Many sailors later regret going PACT — strike selection rates are low, your rate choice is constrained by what the fleet needs, and deckplate work can drag on much longer than expected. Usually a worse deal than waiting in DEP for the rate you actually want.How you strike out of PACT — the Striker program: the post-enlistment process of earning a rate designation at your command (not chosen at MEPS). Your chain of command evaluates performance and on-the-job qualifications, then submits a strike package to Navy Personnel Command (NPC) for approval. Requires a cooperative command and strong performance on your part. The same Striker mechanism also covers the rarer case of a sailor already in one rate who wants to convert to another.
Rates you can strike into as FN:
- DC — Damage Controlman
- EM — Electrician's Mate
- EN — Engineman
- GSE — Gas Turbine Systems Technician (Electrical)
- GSM — Gas Turbine Systems Technician (Mechanical)
- HT — Hull Maintenance Technician
- MM — Machinist's Mate
- MR — Machinery Repairman

Rules can change — verify current criteria with your recruiter and in the latest Navy Recruiting Manual (COMNAVCRUITCOM) before signing any paperwork that assumes a specific entry paygrade.

E-5 and E-6 Advancement Outlook

Average★☆☆☆

0 of 4 factors working in your favor · 1 working against you

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Manning
99% — Overmanned
Community is at or above authorized strength. Limited BBA billet gaps — expect more competition and slower promotion.
Source: Navy Personnel Command FY25 manning snapshot
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Enlistment bonus
No
No active enlistment bonus for this rate. Most ratings do not offer one in any given fiscal year, so this is a neutral signal on its own.
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Overall Selective Reenlistment Bonus (SRB) Outlook
No current SRB
This rating is not paying a Selective Reenlistment Bonus right now. No retention-pressure signal. Data pulled from the quarterly SRB NAVADMIN.
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Bonuses — Click here to see your military pay

All Active CNRC Enlistment Incentives

Active Duty

Source: CNRC GENADMIN 10 APR 26 — effective Apr 12, 2026, contracts authorized through Dec 31, 2026 (NDAA 2026)

Active Component only. Reservist (SELRES) shipping bonuses are set by a separate CNRF incentive message — ask your recruiter.

Bonuses can stack up to the rating's EB cap; LRP is independent. Footnote numbers match the source GENADMIN.

Shipping Bonus (EBSHP)

Earned at RTC graduation. Cannot be recouped post-RTC. AFQT ≥ 31 required.

FN-PACT

April FY26 – July FY26

$10,000[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8]

ALL-—

April FY26 – July FY26

$5,000[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9]

EBSHP Notes

1EBSHP eligibility exists only while the FS is in DEP — they may not reclassify at RTC. Earned and payable upon RTC graduation. Cannot be recouped due to post-RTC reclassification or separation.
2NRC classifiers must list EBSHP separately on the NAVCRUIT 1133/52 Enlistment Guarantee.
3EBSHP is intended to fill shipping gaps during the authorized window. Recruiters should not advise FSs to roll out and back in to chase a bonus.
4Future Sailors must have an AFQT score of 31 or higher to be eligible for EBSHP.
5If the Navy itself moves a Sailor's ship date to align with an A-school class convening date, the EBSHP entitlements are preserved on the Annex and SOU.
8FSs scheduled to ship after the designated period who roll into an authorized month, OR who sign a new contract / reclassify into the rating to ship in the designated month(s), are eligible.
9This universal EBSHP applies to all Future Sailors scheduled to ship during the designated period and may be combined with any rating-based EBSHP for which the FS qualifies.

Cross-cutting Policy Notes

1Future Sailors with Tier 3 education credentials (e.g., HiSET / GED / alternative credential) are NOT authorized any EB.
2Prior-service members re-enlisting onto Active Duty must enter at pay grade E-4 or below, must not have received a bonus on their first enlistment, and (Navy prior-service) must have been separated from active duty for at least 12 months before shipping.
3EBHS (EB for High School) is currently NOT AUTHORIZED in this message — distinct from prior cycles when EBHS was offered.
4During lapsed appropriations, classifiers may still include EB on a contract if the DD 1966 carries the funding-availability disclaimer; payment is then subject to a future appropriation.
5Bonuses are paid in installments. Only the unearned portion of EBSR is eligible for recoupment; EBSHP/EBPST cannot be recouped after RTC graduation.

Always verify with a recruiter before signing — eligibility depends on AFQT, education tier, security-clearance adjudication, ship date, and program availability. Funding subject to congressional reauthorization of 37 USC § 331.

How to qualify & get paid

Sign a contract for this rate at MEPS with the bonus(es) listed on your NAVCRUIT 1133/52 Enlistment Guarantee — eligibility is locked at signing.
Ship to Recruit Training Command (RTC) Great Lakes inside the authorized window — EBSHP and EBPST are earned and paid at RTC graduation and cannot be recouped after.
Complete A-school (and any required follow-on C-school or qualifying course) for your rating — EBSR is earned and paid at school graduation, except for the Special-Operations pipelines, which pay later (AIRR after FRS + first duty station; SO after SQT; SB after SWCC Charlie phase; EOD/ND after their respective A-schools).
LRP is paid annually upon submission of a DD 2475; ~25% is withheld for federal taxes, and a W-2 is issued. LRP must be on your contract at accession — it cannot be added later via reclassification.

Important details & disqualifiers

All bonuses on this page are Active Component (Active Duty) only. Reservists (SELRES) follow a separate CNRF incentive message — ask your recruiter.
Future Sailors with Tier 3 education credentials (HiSET / GED / alternative) are NOT authorized any EB.
AFQT score must be ≥ 31 for EBSHP and ≥ 50 for LRP.
EBSR is the only EB type that can be partially recouped if you separate before completing the obligated service. EBSHP / EBPST cannot be recouped after RTC.
Bonus payments are subject to federal income tax withholding.
EB-for-High-School (EBHS) is currently NOT authorized in the April 2026 GENADMIN — distinct from earlier cycles when it was offered.
Funding: NDAA 2026 authorizes contracts through 31 December 2026; appropriations cover obligations through 30 September 2026; max-EB authority extends through 4 June 2028 — all subject to congressional reauthorization of 37 USC § 331.

Fireman(FN Navy Rating)

What is PACT?

Ratings FN can convert into

Quick Stats

Security Clearance

ASVAB Requirements

Who This Is Best For

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Real Opinions

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–Negative & Mixed

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Recruiter vs Reality

Horror Stories

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What is the ASVAB and what scores do you need?

Which Navy rates have the biggest enlistment bonuses in 2026?

How does promotion work in the Navy?

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